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Taedronai · Jul 12, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

I dunno if it's always been like this, but I just noticed...

??????????????

Brianna · Jul 12, 2007, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Who knows: [The rest of the stone is destroyed]. Wiki is always useful: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Saevio_Proelium

Matfei · Jul 12, 2007, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Never seen it. Odd.

Redfeather1975 · Jul 12, 2007, 01:13 AM // 01:13

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Saevio_Proelium

Diablo™ · Jul 12, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

I capped Battle Rage from him.

vikdog · Jul 12, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Its appears when you have some quest active. I forget what it is called, but you get it in Chantry of Secrets.

Zinger314 · Jul 12, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46

A plot-hole in Guild Wars? That has never happened before. The detail and background of Guild Wars lore puts even J.R.R Toliken to shame!

Metal Herc · Jul 12, 2007, 02:47 AM // 02:47

erm.. What's the plot hole?

Diablo™ · Jul 12, 2007, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Frodo and Gandalf could've just rode those giant eagles and threw that damn ring into Mt. Doom, went home and had a pint of ale.

-Loki- · Jul 12, 2007, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

A plot-hole in Guild Wars? That has never happened before. The detail and background of Guild Wars lore puts even J.R.R Toliken to shame!

What plothole? The Order of Whispers entombed him at the same location as Palawa Joko.

arcanemacabre · Jul 12, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

What plothole? The Order of Whispers entombed him at the same location as Palawa Joko.

But yet, he's a Titan still roaming about in Torment? What exactly did they "entomb"? That's what I don't get.

seut · Jul 12, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

guess what..Saevio escaped

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/A_Brief_Introduction

arcanemacabre · Jul 12, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by seut

guess what..Saevio escaped

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/A_Brief_Introduction

Ahh well that explains that. I guess the only question then is why does that tombstone only appear when that quest is active? Maybe it's a magical, invisible tombstone... *shrug*

strcpy · Jul 12, 2007, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Reading quest dialog can *really* help one know what the lore is. It never ceases to amaze me how many people who moan and complain about GW story have obviously never bothered to *read* that story. How do you know if it is a plot hole or sucks if you do not even bother to read it?

From the relevant quest (A Brief Introduction):

"Hello, <name>. The Order of Whispers needs your help. We have devoted our lives to protecting the land and its people from mystical threats, including that of Abaddon. Most of what we know of the God of Secrets comes from one of his creatures that we captured, at great cost, nearly a hundred years ago. We interrogated this Titan, Saevio Proelium, and when he would no longer aid us, sealed him away in a tomb.

During the recent storms, a great commotion was heard around that tomb. We need someone to go check on Saevio Proelium's tomb. If something has happened, we are in even more danger than we thought! Be careful, for demons are appearing more frequently, and may be seeking to free the titan. If Saevio Proelium has escaped, there is no telling how dangerous the area could be!"

"It is as I feared. Not only has the descendant of our greatest hero gone mad, one of the servants of Abaddon has escaped! This is grim news. We will need to amass a force. We have been watching you for some time, <name>, and we know of your devotion to the people of this land. The Order of Whispers will be calling on you again."

You even have to click on the tomb in doing the quest.

and then dialog from the follow up quest ("Between a Rock..." - one of the LB farm quests):

"Alas, Margonites have released the titan Saevio Proelium from his tomb. The Titan has fled back to its lair in the Realm of Torment, but now the Margonites seek revenge for its long imprisonment! Most of the citizens here are miners or farmers. They can't defend themselves against these abominations. I have word the villages of the Yatendi Canyons are under attack! These peasants will be slaughtered if you don't get there right away!"

As to why it didn't show up before, do not know - since it was due to recent storms and the margonites intentionally freeing him I would assume it was underground. Also do not know why they chose Joko's Monument, I guess the same reason they chose to entomb Joko there also - maybe there is something special about it. But that still isn't a plot hole, just something that is never explained.

Gregslot · Jul 12, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Wow, you have 2 eles at your team... i bet both of them use Searing Flames.
NOW THATS ORIGINAL!

wiki explained all... maybe we might see more at these mission packs

seut · Jul 12, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

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Originally Posted by Gregslot

... maybe we might see more at these mission packs

Most likely nothing about Saevio. The battle against Palawa Joko is a few hundred years ago and the titan was captured nearly hundred years ago.
Additionally the Margonites & Titans are enemies of Palawa Joko.

btw. this thread should be moved into Druid's Overlook

acidic · Jul 12, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

palawa joko is so pimp, man he is a playa

Redfeather1975 · Jul 12, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Saevio could be in the mission pack.
Even if he was captured 100 years ago, he could have been around a lot longer than that.
And not always have been a titan.
/me does suspicious shifty eyes

seut · Jul 12, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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After 100 days of bloody battle, Turai Ossa and his elite troops defeated Joko's undead forces of grey giants and undead centaurs. Yet, despite attempts made with magic, blade, and even other means, Palawa Joko could not be killed. Turai Ossa's elite forces chained him by magic and bound him deep in the earth. Thus the undead lord's defeat was complete and Palawa Joko sealed away forever in a location kept secret by the Order of Whispers.

--Monument to the Defeat of Palawa Joko in Jahai Bluffs

Nothing about Titans in the lore of the Battle of Jahai and i don't think Turai Ossa would've gone on a pilgrimage to the Crystal Desert, if there were titans on the lose. Back in those times the Forgotten kept the lid on the Torment entry shut.

freekedoutfish · Jul 12, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by Matfei

Never seen it. Odd.

You've never seen it?

One of the main quests in NightFall actually takes you right up to that statue, explains (partly) what it is and has you do a task near it.

There is even a cinematic around it.

I'm not sure how you could miss it unless you havent played Nightfall or got that far yet...